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Mac OS X Neu Aufsetzen

mario110

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Hallo Zusammen,

Ich habe ein paar Fragen zum Mac.

Ich habe das MacBookPro 13" Late 2013.
Bin damals von der dunklen Seite der Macht auf  gewechselt weil ich die Schnauze voll hatte.

Ich habe das Book genau 2 Jahre und habe noch nie die Festplatte formatiert.

Ich möchte gerne wissen wie mache ich das am besten?
Möchte gerne mal aufräumen
Die Time Capsule besitze ich ebenfalls und mache regelmäßig Backups:
1. Wie formatiere ich den Mac am besten? Boot Fähiger Stick ist fertig :)
2. Wie beziehe ich wieder meine Daten aus dem Backup?
3. Muss ich auch die Programme neu installieren oder liegen die alle auf dem BackUp?

4. wenn ich das System sauber halten mag, was muss ich beachten?

Danke vorab
 

doc_holleday

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Mal abgesehen davon, dass solche Aktionen zu Neunundneunzig-Komma-Prozent überflüssig sind, würde ich es so machen:

- zusätzlich zum Backup auf der Time Capsule eine ausreichend große externe Festplatte beschaffen
- alle "eigenen Dateien" manuell auf diese Festplatte kopieren (dabei die Dinge, die in der Benutzer-Library liegen nicht vergessen*)
- Gerät neu starten und vom USB-Stick booten
- Dort Dienstprogramme > Festplattendienstprogramm > Macintosh HD > löschen (Mac OS X Extended journaled ohne die Groß-Kleinschreiben Option)
- FPDP verlassen; OS X installieren
- Grundkonfiguration vornehmen
- Alle Programme frisch von der Quelle installieren
- Die eigenen Daten wieder manuell an die passenden Orte zurücklegen

Wie gesagt, in den seltensten Fällen sinnvoll, aber wenn man an einem verregneten Herbstwochenende nichts besseres zu tun hat und man das einfach mal gemacht haben will, um zu wissen wie es geht. Warum nicht...


wenn ich das System sauber halten mag, was muss ich beachten?

http://www.apfeltalk.de/community/threads/warnung-vor-cleanup-tools-antivirenprogrammen-co.435167/

Und Programme immer gemäß Herstelleranleitung deinstallieren. Gibt es keine gilt die Grundregel: so wie es auf den Mac gekommen ist, sollte es auch wieder entfernt werden.

Sprich, bei...
Installation per Drag & Drop in den Programmeordner > Deinstallation per Drag & Drop in den Papierkorb
Installation per Hilfsprogramm ("Installer") > Deinstallation per Hilfsprogramm ("Uninstaller")
Installation über den Mac App Store > Launchpad, Icon so lange anklicken, bis es wackelt, dann das [x] anklicken
 
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mario110

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Gibt es irgendwelche Systemdateien die regelmäßig zu löschen sind wie bei Windows?

Mein MacBook ist nähmlich etwas lahm im Moment
 

doc_holleday

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Gibt es irgendwelche Systemdateien die regelmäßig zu löschen sind wie bei Windows?

Nein. Das was es zu löschen gibt, erledigt OS X automatisch im Hintergrund.

Lade dir bitte mal dieses kleine Programm hier runter:
http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

und stelle das Ergebnis hier eingepackt in Code-Tags ein (die findest du hier in der Menüleiste des Antwortfensters von AT hinter dem [+]-Button, dann </> Code).
 

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Code:
EtreCheck version: 2.5.3 (206)
Report generated 10/10/15, 9:58 AM
Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

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Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

Hardware Information: (What does this mean?)
    MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)
    [Click for Technical Specifications]
    [Click for User Guide]
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro9,2
    1 2,5 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core
    4 GB RAM Upgradeable
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        BANK 0/DIMM0
            2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
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    Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
    Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 131 - SN = 9G3360FY3D3MB

Video Information: (What does this mean?)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
        Color LCD 1280 x 800

System Software: (What does this mean?)
    OS X El Capitan 10.11 (15A284) - Time since boot: less than an hour

Disk Information: (What does this mean?)
    APPLE HDD ST750LM022 disk0 : (750,16 GB) (Rotational)
        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB
        BOOTCAMP (disk0s4) /Volumes/BOOTCAMP : 80.00 GB (40.58 GB free)
        Macintosh HD (disk1) / : 668.93 GB (510.54 GB free)
            Encrypted AES-XTS Unlocked
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    HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GS41N   ()

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    Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
    Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
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        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

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    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

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        /Library/Extensions
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    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungMTP (1.4.16 - SDK 10.5) [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungSerial (1.4.16 - SDK 10.6) [Click for support]

System Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)
    [loaded]    com.apple.java.InstallOnDemand.plist - Invalid signature!

Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)
    [loaded]    com.adobe.CS4ServiceManager.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.paragon.updater.plist [Click for support]
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    [loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist [Click for support]

Launch Daemons: (What does this mean?)
    [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.ea.origin.ESHelper.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [Click for support]
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    [running]    com.symantec.deepsight-extractor.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.symantec.errorreporter-periodic.plist [Click for support]
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    [loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    jp.co.canon.MasterInstaller.plist [Click for support]

User Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)
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    [running]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist [Click for support]
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    [loaded]    jp.co.canon.Inkjet_Extended_Survey_Agent.plist [Click for support]

User Login Items: (What does this mean?)
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    DisplayPad    UNKNOWN  (missing value)
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    owncloud    UNKNOWN  (missing value)
    Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector EX    Programm Hidden (/Applications/Canon Utilities/IJ Network Scanner Selector EX/Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector EX.app)

Other Apps: (What does this mean?)
    [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000002.EtreCheck
    [running]    com.getdropbox.dropbox.57632
    [running]    com.kairos.duet.57952
    [running]    jp.co.canon.ij.CNSSelectorAgent.90912

Internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)
    Default Browser: Version: 601 - SDK 10.11
    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.4.4.2 [Click for support]
    AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 11.0.06 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 19.0.0.185 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
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    QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
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    NortonInternetSecurityBF: Version: 1.11.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    EPPEX Plugin: Version: 10.0 [Click for support]
    JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 45 Check version

User internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)
    RealPlayer Plugin: Version: Unknown
    Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1 [Click for support]

Safari Extensions: (What does this mean?)
    Open in Internet Explorer
    Norton Internet Security

3rd Party Preference Panes: (What does this mean?)
    Flash Player  [Click for support]
    Flip4Mac WMV  [Click for support]
    Java  [Click for support]
    Norton\nQuickMenu  [Click for support]

Time Machine: (What does this mean?)
    Mobile backups: OFF
    Auto backup: YES
    Volumes being backed up:
        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 668.93 GB Disk used: 158.39 GB
    Destinations:
        Data [Network]
        Total size: 2.00 TB
        Total number of backups: 33
        Oldest backup: 2015-05-03 12:43:55 +0000
        Last backup: 2015-10-03 07:31:29 +0000
        Size of backup disk: Adequate
            Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk used 158.39 GB X 3)

Top Processes by CPU: (What does this mean?)
        78%    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
        22%    com.apple.WebKit.Plugin.64(2)
        12%    com.apple.WebKit.Networking
        10%    WindowServer
         9%    Safari

Top Processes by Memory: (What does this mean?)
    544 MB    kernel_task
    451 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    336 MB    mdworker(19)
    90 MB    mds_stores
    86 MB    Safari

Virtual Memory Information: (What does this mean?)
    240 MB    Free RAM
    3.76 GB    Used RAM (1.12 GB Cached)
    0 B    Swap Used

Diagnostics Information: (What does this mean?)
    Oct 10, 2015, 09:49:11 AM    Self test - passed
    Oct 9, 2015, 10:23:55 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/OriginClient_2015-10-09-222355_[redacted].hang
    Oct 9, 2015, 10:12:47 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/SymDaemon_2015-10-09-221247_[redacted].crash
 

doc_holleday

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Wenn Norton installiert ist, kann ich mir gut vorstellen, dass die Kiste nicht sauber läuft (siehe Post #2).

Der "Attachmenttamer" scheint auch nicht sauber zu laufen.
 

mario110

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Dieser Attachmenttamer sagt mir nichts.... Hat es was mit dem Norton zu tun ??
 

doc_holleday

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Keine Ahnung. Du hast das installiert, also solltest du es von uns am besten wissen. ;)

Nachtrag/Vorschlag: deinstalliere Norton und schaue ob es dann weg ist.
 

mario110

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Leider finde ich diesen Attachmenttamer nicht auf meinem Mac ....
 

mafri

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Fang doch erstmal mit Norton an...
 

wolfmac

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Flip4Mac kann auch weg, wenn es nur zum WMV-Dateien gucken geht. das kann VLC auch.
 

mario110

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Mir ist auf gefallen das ich noch Überbleibsel von meinem HP Drucker auf dem Mac habe was sich nicht gelöscht hat
 

mafri

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Hast Du Norton deinstalliert?
 

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@mario110 Willkommen im Forum. :)

Drei erfahren User legen dir nahe Noton zu deinsatllieren. Bitte erledige das. Das ist das Hauptproblem an deinem Mac. Symantec auf OSX ist wie die Pest.
 

mario110

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Code:
EtreCheck version: 2.5.3 (206)
Report generated 10/10/15, 11:15 AM
Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products.
Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

Hardware Information: (What does this mean?)
    MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012)
    [Click for Technical Specifications]
    [Click for User Guide]
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro9,2
    1 2,5 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2-core
    4 GB RAM Upgradeable
    [Click for upgrade instructions]
        BANK 0/DIMM0
            2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
    Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
    Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
    Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 131 - SN = 9G3360FY3D3MB

Video Information: (What does this mean?)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
        Color LCD 1280 x 800

System Software: (What does this mean?)
    OS X El Capitan 10.11 (15A284) - Time since boot: less than an hour

Disk Information: (What does this mean?)
    APPLE HDD ST750LM022 disk0 : (750,16 GB) (Rotational)
        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB
        BOOTCAMP (disk0s4) /Volumes/BOOTCAMP : 80.00 GB (40.58 GB free)
        Macintosh HD (disk1) / : 668.93 GB (511.58 GB free)
            Encrypted AES-XTS Unlocked
            Core Storage: disk0s2 669.30 GB Online

    HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GS41N   ()

USB Information: (What does this mean?)
    Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
    Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

Thunderbolt Information: (What does this mean?)
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Gatekeeper: (What does this mean?)
    Mac App Store and identified developers

Kernel Extensions: (What does this mean?)
        /Applications/PMHMac.app
    [not loaded]    com.sony.driver.dsccamFirmwareUpdaterType00 (1 - SDK 10.5) [Click for support]

        /Library/Extensions
    [loaded]    com.karios.driver.DuetDisplay (1 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.sony.driver.dsccamDeviceInfo00 (1 - SDK 10.7) [Click for support]

        /System/Library/Extensions
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungComposite (1.4.16 - SDK 10.6) [Click for support]

        /System/Library/Extensions/ssuddrv.kext/Contents/PlugIns
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungACMControl (1.4.16 - SDK 10.6) [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungACMData (1.4.16 - SDK 10.6) [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungMTP (1.4.16 - SDK 10.5) [Click for support]
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungSerial (1.4.16 - SDK 10.6) [Click for support]

System Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)
    [loaded]    com.apple.java.InstallOnDemand.plist - Invalid signature!

Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)
    [loaded]    com.adobe.CS4ServiceManager.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.paragon.updater.plist [Click for support]
    [running]    com.sony.SonyAutoLauncher.agent.plist [Click for support]
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    [loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist [Click for support]

Launch Daemons: (What does this mean?)
    [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.ea.origin.ESHelper.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.JavaUpdateHelper.plist [Click for support]
    [running]    com.siber.gs-server.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    jp.co.canon.MasterInstaller.plist [Click for support]

User Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)
    [loaded]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist [Click for support]
    [running]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    info.lokiware.attachmenttamer.cleanup.plist [Click for support]
    [failed]    info.lokiware.attachmenttamer.setupagent.plist [Click for support]
    [loaded]    jp.co.canon.Inkjet_Extended_Survey_Agent.plist [Click for support]

User Login Items: (What does this mean?)
    duet    Programm  (/Applications/duet.app)
    iTunesHelper    Programm  (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)
    DisplayPad    UNKNOWN  (missing value)
    Dropbox    Programm  (/Applications/Dropbox.app)
    owncloud    UNKNOWN  (missing value)
    Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector EX    Programm Hidden (/Applications/Canon Utilities/IJ Network Scanner Selector EX/Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector EX.app)

Other Apps: (What does this mean?)
    [running]    com.etresoft.EtreCheck.3552
    [running]    com.getdropbox.dropbox.57632
    [running]    com.kairos.duet.57952
    [running]    com.microsoft.Office365Service.65632
    [running]    com.microsoft.Word.143392
    [running]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.fba.96672
    [running]    jp.co.canon.ij.CNSSelectorAgent.90912

Internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)
    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.4.4.2 [Click for support]
    FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 19.0.0.185 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
    AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 11.0.06 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    AdobePDFViewer: Version: 9.0.0 [Click for support]
    Flash Player: Version: 19.0.0.185 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
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    Default Browser: Version: 601 - SDK 10.11
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    Silverlight: Version: 5.1.40416.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
    JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 45 Check version

User internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)
    RealPlayer Plugin: Version: Unknown
    Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1 [Click for support]

Safari Extensions: (What does this mean?)
    Open in Internet Explorer

3rd Party Preference Panes: (What does this mean?)
    Flash Player  [Click for support]
    Java  [Click for support]

Time Machine: (What does this mean?)
    Mobile backups: OFF
    Auto backup: YES
    Volumes being backed up:
        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 668.93 GB Disk used: 157.35 GB
    Destinations:
        Data [Network]
        Total size: 2.00 TB
        Total number of backups: 33
        Oldest backup: 2015-05-03 12:43:55 +0000
        Last backup: 2015-10-03 07:31:29 +0000
        Size of backup disk: Adequate
            Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk used 157.35 GB X 3)

Top Processes by CPU: (What does this mean?)
         1%    duet
         1%    fontd
         1%    Microsoft Word
         0%    usbmuxd
         0%    cloudpaird

Top Processes by Memory: (What does this mean?)
    616 MB    kernel_task
    295 MB    mds_stores
    238 MB    mdworker(17)
    106 MB    Microsoft Word
    102 MB    Dropbox

Virtual Memory Information: (What does this mean?)
    254 MB    Free RAM
    3.75 GB    Used RAM (1.14 GB Cached)
    0 B    Swap Used

Diagnostics Information: (What does this mean?)
    Oct 10, 2015, 10:56:10 AM    Self test - passed
    Oct 9, 2015, 10:23:55 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/OriginClient_2015-10-09-222355_[redacted].hang
 

mario110

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Flip4Mac habe ich gelöscht und es taucht immer noch auf... Wieso?