[MacBook Pro] 13 Zoll late 2011 sehr langsam

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  1. jo.voe

    jo.voe Golden Delicious

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    hallo community,

    da ich schon länger performance probleme mit meinem macbook habe, aber ansonsten sehr zufrieden bin, denke ich im moment über ein upgrade in sachen RAM oder SSD nach. mein arbeitsspeicher ist schon beim öffnen von safari voll ausgelastet und ich bekomme den bunten kreis zusehen.. das neu aufspielen des systems hat auch nichts gebracht..

    meine fragen also:

    1. genügt ein RAM upgrade aug 8gb bzw 16gb, oder bringt nur die teurere SSD eine leistungssteigerung

    2. Vielleicht kann sich ja jemand von euch mal meinem EtreCheck Code annehmen und findet etwas ausgewöhnliches ..?!

    EtreCheck version: 3.4 (420)

    Report generated 2017-06-15 22:59:14

    Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

    Runtime: 11:40

    Performance: Poor



    Click the [Lookup] links for more information from Apple Support Communities.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.



    Problem: Computer is too slow



    Hardware Information:

    MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011)

    [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1

    1 2,4 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-2435M) CPU: 2-core

    4 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]

    BANK 0/DIMM0

    2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok

    BANK 1/DIMM0

    2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok

    Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

    Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

    Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 755

    iCloud Quota: 4.60 GB available


    Video Information:

    Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB

    Color LCD 1280 x 800


    Disk Information:

    ST9500325ASG disk0: (500,11 GB) (Rotational)

    [Show SMART report]

    EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <not mounted> [EFI]: 210 MB

    (disk0s2) <not mounted> [CoreStorage Container]: 499.25 GB

    Recovery HD (disk0s3 - Journaled HFS+) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB


    MATSHITADVD-R UJ-8A8 ()


    USB Information:

    USB20Bus

    Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

    hub_device

    Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

    Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

    Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

    USB20Bus

    hub_device

    Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver


    Thunderbolt Information:

    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus


    Virtual disks:

    Macintosh HD (disk1 - Journaled HFS+) / [Startup]: 498.88 GB (409.13 GB free)

    Encrypted AES-XTS Unlocked

    Physical disk: disk0s2 499.25 GB Online

    Skype (disk2s1 - HFS+) /Volumes/Skype : 200 MB (63 MB free)

    Physical disk: Disk Image 200 MB (63 MB free)



    System Software:

    macOS Sierra 10.12.5 (16F73) - Time since boot: about 21 days


    Gatekeeper:

    Mac App Store and identified developers


    Kernel Extensions:

    /Library/Extensions

    [loaded] com.avira.kext.FileAccessControl (1.2.5 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]



    System Launch Agents:

    [not loaded] 7 Apple tasks

    [loaded] 168 Apple tasks

    [running] 73 Apple tasks

    [killed] 34 Apple tasks

    34 processes killed due to insufficient RAM


    System Launch Daemons:

    [not loaded] 42 Apple tasks

    [loaded] 162 Apple tasks

    [running] 88 Apple tasks

    [killed] 25 Apple tasks

    25 processes killed due to insufficient RAM


    Launch Agents:

    [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.general.agent.plist (? 94ca9a28 d8612207 - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.gjallarhorn.plist (Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG - installed 2017-06-14) [Lookup]

    [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.notifications.agent.plist (? 8b13021d d8612207 - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [failed] com.avira.antivirus.odscan.default.plist (? 7d33acd4 d8612207 - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.scheduler.agent.plist (? 4b765eec d8612207 - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [running] com.avira.antivirus.systray.plist (? 9bf80dc3 5ea11d85 - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.telemetry.agent.plist (? a4625078 d8612207 - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.update.default.plist (? 7dca32a5 d8612207 - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [running] com.avira.helper.avstats.plist (? cf66ea88 d220f116 - installed 2017-06-14) [Lookup]

    [loaded] com.avira.servicehub.license.plist (Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG - installed 2017-06-14) [Lookup]

    [loaded] com.avira.servicehub.license.poll.plist (Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG - installed 2017-06-14) [Lookup]


    Launch Daemons:

    [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (? 2afb3af7 225fb24b - installed 2017-06-10) [Lookup]

    [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.dbcleaner.plist (? 223cb974 b3f26c9f - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [running] com.avira.helper.watchdox.plist (? e7e538d1 97586304 - installed 2017-06-15) [Lookup]

    [running] hdjsd.plist (Guillemot Research & Development Inc. - installed 2016-07-28) [Lookup]


    User Launch Agents:

    [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2017-03-29) [Lookup]

    [running] com.spotify.webhelper.plist (Spotify - installed 2017-05-25) [Lookup]


    User Login Items:

    iTunesHelper Programm (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-05-16)

    (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

    Google Drive Programm

    (/Applications/Google Drive.app)

    Spotify Programm - Hidden

    (/Applications/Spotify.app)

    Memory Cleaner X Programm

    (/Applications/Memory Cleaner X.app)


    Internet Plug-ins:

    Silverlight: 5.1.41212.0 (installed 2016-06-18) [Lookup]

    FlashPlayer-10.6: 26.0.0.126 (installed 2017-06-14) [Lookup]

    QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-05-25)

    Flash Player: 26.0.0.126 (installed 2017-06-14) [Lookup]



    Safari Extensions:

    [enabled] Adblock Plus - Eyeo GmbH - https://adblockplus.org/ (installed 2017-05-30)

    [enabled] AdBlock - BetaFish, Inc. - https://getadblock.com (installed 2017-05-30)

    [enabled] Translate - SideTree.com - Apps for Mac and Web - http://SideTree.com/extensions.html#Translate (installed 2017-05-30)


    3rd Party Preference Panes:

    Flash Player (installed 2017-06-10) [Lookup]


    Time Machine:

    Time Machine not configured!



    Top Processes by CPU:

    7% mds

    6% plugin-container

    6% WindowServer

    5% ps

    2% firefox


    Top Processes by Memory:

    550 MB kernel_task

    267 MB Safari

    163 MB plugin-container

    153 MB firefox

    115 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent


    Top Processes by Network Use:

    Input Output Process name

    21 MB 32 KB firefox

    6 MB 5 MB mDNSResponder

    2 MB 43 KB Mail

    333 KB 91 KB netbiosd

    10 KB 29 KB apsd


    Top Processes by Energy Use:

    8.20 WindowServer

    6.14 plugin-container

    4.42 firefox

    1.14 avguard-ondemand-mgmt


    Virtual Memory Information:

    587 MB Available RAM

    41 MB Free RAM

    3.43 GB Used RAM

    546 MB Cached files

    454 MB Swap Used


    Software installs:

    Memory Cleaner X: 2.0.5 (installed 2017-06-14)

    Adobe Flash Player: (installed 2017-06-14)



    Install information may not be complete.






    Vielen Dank schon einem für eure hilfe !!

    euer josch
     
  2. saw

    saw Roter Astrachan

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    Da weis man ja nicht wo man anfangen soll, außer neu installieren und das Zeugs wech lassen, vorher hier einmal durchlesen oO
    http://www.apfeltalk.de/community/threads/warnung-vor-cleanup-tools-antivirenprogrammen-co.435167/
     
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  3. Wuchtbrumme

    Wuchtbrumme Virginischer Rosenapfel

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    sieht dreckig aus. Andererseits vermute ich ein Problem mit dem SATA-Kabel oder dem Festplattenpowermanagement. Bitte im EtreCheck auf Show SMART report anklicken und copy&paste.
     
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  4. jo.voe

    jo.voe Golden Delicious

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    smartctl 6.5 2016-05-07 r4318 [Darwin 16.6.0 x86_64] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Model Family: Seagate Momentus 5400.6
    Device Model: ST9500325ASG
    Serial Number: 5VEN5926
    LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 044f5d90f
    Firmware Version: 0009APM1
    User Capacity: 500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB]
    Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
    Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm
    Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
    ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
    SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
    Local Time is: Fri Jun 16 00:22:40 2017 CEST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled

    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
    was never started.
    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
    Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
    without error or no self-test has ever
    been run.
    Total time to complete Offline
    data collection: ( 0) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities: (0x73) SMART execute Offline immediate.
    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
    Suspend Offline collection upon new
    command.
    No Offline surface scan supported.
    Self-test supported.
    Conveyance Self-test supported.
    Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
    power-saving mode.
    Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
    General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 137) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
    SCT capabilities: (0x103f) SCT Status supported.
    SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
    SCT Feature Control supported.
    SCT Data Table supported.

    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000e 115 099 006 Old_age Always - 89632657
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 100 099 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
    4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 094 094 020 Old_age Always - 6934
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 080 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 107037737
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 095 095 000 Old_age Always - 4769
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 094 094 020 Old_age Always - 6329
    184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0
    187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 099 000 Old_age Always - 65630
    189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 061 056 045 Old_age Always - 39 (Min/Max 33/39)
    191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 79
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 2579
    193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 001 001 000 Old_age Always - 241980
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 039 044 000 Old_age Always - 39 (243 52 0 0 0)
    195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 050 042 000 Old_age Always - 89632657
    197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
    254 Free_Fall_Sensor 0x0032 001 001 000 Old_age Always - 820

    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged

    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1 0 0 Not_testing
    2 0 0 Not_testing
    3 0 0 Not_testing
    4 0 0 Not_testing
    5 0 0 Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
    After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
     
  5. Wuchtbrumme

    Wuchtbrumme Virginischer Rosenapfel

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    sieht nach zu vielem Parken aus - 242000 Parkvorgänge bei 4770 Betriebsstunden, das macht einmal Parken pro Minute.

    Ich würde eine schöne SSD für nen Hunni besorgen und einbauen. Dabei bloss bitte auf das sehr empfindliche SATA-Kabel achten. Danach wird das Teil wie neu wirken
     
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  6. jo.voe

    jo.voe Golden Delicious

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    okay, dann schon mal danke bis hierher! was für ne SSD kannst du da empfehlen?
     
  7. Wuchtbrumme

    Wuchtbrumme Virginischer Rosenapfel

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    Meine Empfehlung: Crucial BX200 oder besser MX300.
     
  8. jo.voe

    jo.voe Golden Delicious

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    okay super ich denke, dass mach ich! Danke für deine Hilfe
     
  9. i-the-G

    i-the-G Transparent von Croncels

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    @Wuchtbrumme sag mal magst nochmal sagen, welcher Eintrag das im Smart Report ist, der darüber Aufschluss gibt, ob das Kabel kaputt ist. der Wert dahinter sollte dann ja nicht höher als 0 sein oder?

    Seit wann kann etreCheck den Smart report außerdem?
     
  10. Wuchtbrumme

    Wuchtbrumme Virginischer Rosenapfel

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    ob das Kabel kaputt ist, kann ich nicht sehen; das wäre der Raw-Value zu Parameter 199 Ultra DMA CRC Error rate.
    Dein Problem war das viele Parken.Erst mal würde ich es nur mit SSD-Austausch ohne neues Kabel probieren.