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MBP hängt ständig

denetron

Jonagold
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Hallo Zusammen,

ich hoffe in diesem Forum bin ich richtig gelandet.

Seit ein paar Tagen habe ich das Problem dass bei meinem MBP 15 (OS X 10.11.3) beim öffnen von Anwendungen oder beim surfen das System ständig Zwischen-lädt (der kleine bunte Ball).

Großartig Programme oder Software habe ich nicht aufgespielt - mir daher nicht erklärbar.

Kann jemand vielleicht ein gutes Diagnoseprogramm empfehlen? Das untere für die Festplatte habe ich bereits laufen lassen.

Danke!
 

denetron

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Hoffe das ist do korrekt:

Code:
EtreCheck version: 2.9.3 (253)
Report generated 2016-02-10 10:14:10
Download EtreCheck from http://etrecheck.com
Runtime 1:47
Performance: Excellent

Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.
Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.
Click the [Check files] link for help with unknown files.

Problem: Beachballing

Hardware Information: ⓘ
    MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015)
    [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro11,5
    1 2,5 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4-core
    16 GB RAM Not upgradeable
        BANK 0/DIMM0
            8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
    Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
    Wireless:  en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
    Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 50 - SN = D865375Y5HTFWLKAS

Video Information: ⓘ
    AMD Radeon R9 M370X - VRAM: 2048 MB
    Intel Iris Pro
        Color LCD 3360 x 2100

System Software: ⓘ
    OS X El Capitan 10.11.3 (15D21) - Time since boot: less than an hour

Disk Information: ⓘ
    APPLE SSD SM0512G disk0 : (500,28 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)
        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB
        BOOTCAMP (disk0s4) /Volumes/BOOTCAMP : 32.05 GB (1.76 GB free)
        Mac OS (disk1) / : 467.00 GB (330.65 GB free)
            Encrypted AES-XTS Unlocked
            Core Storage: disk0s2 467.36 GB Online

USB Information: ⓘ
    Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    Logitech USB Receiver

Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Gatekeeper: ⓘ
    Mac App Store and identified developers

Unknown Files: ⓘ
    /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.magican.castle.plist
    One unknown file found. [Check files]

Kernel Extensions: ⓘ
        /Applications/Magican.app
    [not loaded]    com.magican.iokit.filemon (1 - SDK 10.7) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.magican.iokit.netmon (1 - SDK 10.7) [Support]

        /Applications/Parallels Desktop.app
    [not loaded]    com.parallels.kext.hypervisor (11.1.1 32312 - SDK 10.9) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.parallels.kext.netbridge (11.1.1 32312 - SDK 10.9) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.parallels.kext.usbconnect (11.1.1 32312 - SDK 10.9) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.parallels.kext.vnic (11.1.1 32312 - SDK 10.9) [Support]

        /Library/Extensions
    [loaded]    com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver (3.9.1 - SDK 10.8) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.cyberic.SmoothMouse (9 - SDK 10.8) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.logitech.manager.kernel.driver (5.40.1 - SDK 10.8) [Support]

        /System/Library/Extensions
    [loaded]    com.Logitech.Unifying.HID Driver (1.3.0 - SDK 10.8) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.avira.kext.FileAccessControl (1.1.1 - SDK 10.9) [Support]

Startup Items: ⓘ
    TuxeraNTFSUnmountHelper: Path: /Library/StartupItems/TuxeraNTFSUnmountHelper
    Startup items are obsolete in OS X Yosemite

System Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [loaded]    157 Apple tasks
    [running]    79 Apple tasks

System Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [loaded]    195 Apple tasks
    [running]    92 Apple tasks

Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [running]    com.Logitech.Control Center.Daemon.plist [Support]
    [loaded]    com.avira.antivirus.general.agent.plist [Support]
    [loaded]    com.avira.antivirus.ipm.ui.plist [Support]
    [failed]    com.avira.antivirus.notifications.agent.plist [Support] [Details]
    [loaded]    com.avira.antivirus.odscan.default.plist [Support]
    [loaded]    com.avira.antivirus.scheduler.agent.plist [Support]
    [running]    com.avira.antivirus.systray.plist [Support]
    [loaded]    com.avira.antivirus.telemetry.agent.plist [Support]
    [loaded]    com.avira.antivirus.update.default.plist [Support]
    [running]    com.avira.helper.avstats.plist [Support]
    [running]    com.logitech.manager.daemon.plist [Support]

Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Support]
    [failed]    com.avira.antivirus.dbcleaner.plist [Support] [Details]
    [failed]    com.avira.antivirus.ipm.loader.plist [Support] [Details]
    [running]    com.avira.helper.watchdox.plist [Support]
    [running]    com.magican.castle.plist [Support]

User Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [running]    com.cyberic.smoothmouse.plist [Support]
    [loaded]    com.cyberic.smoothmouseupdater.plist [Support]
    [failed]    com.lastpass.LastPassHelper.plist [Support] [Details]
    [running]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist [Support]
    [loaded]    com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist [Support]

User Login Items: ⓘ
    Steam    Programm  (/Applications/Steam.app)
    iTunesHelper    Programm  (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)
    Alfred 2    Programm  (/Applications/Alfred 2.app)

Other Apps: ⓘ
    [running]    com.apple.xpc.launchd.oneshot.0x10000002.EtreCheck
    [running]    com.runningwithcrayons.Alfred-2.121312
    [running]    com.valvesoftware.steam.ipctool

Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ
    npTemWebRTCPlugin: Version: TemWebRTCPlugin_x86_64 0.8.866 - SDK 10.10 [Support]
    FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 20.0.0.306 - SDK 10.6 [Support]
    QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
    Flash Player: Version: 20.0.0.306 - SDK 10.6 [Support]
    Silverlight: Version: 5.1.41105.0 - SDK 10.6 [Support]
    Default Browser: Version: 601 - SDK 10.11

Safari Extensions: ⓘ
    AdBlock
    LastPass
    Open in Internet Explorer

3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ
    Flash Player  [Support]
    FUSE for OS X (OSXFUSE)  [Support]
    Logitech Control Center  [Support]
    MacFUSE  [Support]
    NTFS-3G  [Support]
    SmoothMouse  [Support]
    Tuxera NTFS  [Support]

Time Machine: ⓘ
    Auto backup: YES
    Volumes being backed up:
        Mac OS: Disk size: 467.00 GB Disk used: 136.35 GB
    Destinations:
        Data [Network]
        Total size: 2.00 TB
        Total number of backups: 29
        Oldest backup: 03.12.15, 02:35
        Last backup: 10.02.16, 09:59
        Size of backup disk: Excellent
            Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk size 467.00 GB X 3)

Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ
        94%    avguard.bin
         4%    WindowServer
         2%    fontd
         1%    kernel_task
         1%    Dock

Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ
    1.19 GB    kernel_task
    754 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    705 MB    Safari
    655 MB    avguard.bin
    197 MB    mdworker(11)

Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ
    7.74 GB    Free RAM
    8.25 GB    Used RAM (1.78 GB Cached)
    0 B    Swap Used

Diagnostics Information: ⓘ
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:13:17 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101317_[redacted].crash
        /Applications/Avira.app/Contents/MacOS/avlogwriter
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:13:13 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101313_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:12:57 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101257_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:12:47 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101247_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:12:44 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101244_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:12:27 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101227_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:12:17 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101217_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:12:13 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101213_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:11:56 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101156_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:11:46 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101146_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:11:44 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101144_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:11:06 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101106_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:11:03 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101103_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:10:46 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101046_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:10:36 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101036_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:10:33 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101033_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:10:17 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-101017_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:09:57 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-100957_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:09:55 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-100955_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:09:37 AM    Self test - passed
    Feb 10, 2016, 10:08:31 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-100831_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:53:14 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095314_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:53:11 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095311_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:52:55 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095255_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:52:45 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095245_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:52:42 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095242_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:52:25 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095225_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:52:15 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095215_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:52:12 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095212_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:51:55 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095155_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:51:45 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095145_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:51:42 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095142_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:51:25 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095125_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:51:14 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095114_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:51:11 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095111_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:50:54 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095054_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:50:44 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095044_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:50:41 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095041_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:50:33 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095033_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:50:22 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-095022_[redacted].crash
    Feb 10, 2016, 09:49:56 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-10-094956_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 08:00:50 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-200050_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 08:00:47 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-200047_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 08:00:33 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-200033_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 08:00:08 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-200008_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 07:59:58 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-195958_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 07:59:43 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-195943_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 07:59:29 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-195929_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:51:39 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-185139_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:51:35 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-185135_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:51:25 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-185125_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:51:01 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-185101_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:49:29 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-184929_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:49:27 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-184927_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:49:08 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-184908_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:48:38 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-184838_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:48:36 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-184836_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:48:19 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-184819_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:48:09 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-184809_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 06:48:06 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-08-184806_[redacted].crash
    Feb 8, 2016, 04:29:03 PM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/XCOM 2_2016-02-08-162903_[redacted].crash
        com.feralinteractive.xcom2 - /Users/USER/Library/Application Support/Steam/*/XCOM 2.app/Contents/MacOS/XCOM 2
    Feb 8, 2016, 10:58:41 AM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Mail_2016-02-08-105841_[redacted].hang
        /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail
    Feb 8, 2016, 10:57:40 AM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService_2016-02-08-105740_[redacted].crash
        /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/XPCServices/com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.appkit.xpc.openAndSavePanelService
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:29:47 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182947_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:29:45 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182945_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:29:35 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182935_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:29:17 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182917_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:29:07 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182907_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:29:05 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182905_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:28:46 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182846_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:28:36 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182836_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:28:34 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182834_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:28:25 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182825_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:28:07 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182807_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:27:57 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182757_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:27:53 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182753_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:27:45 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182745_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:27:26 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182726_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:27:16 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182716_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:27:14 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182714_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:27:05 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182705_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:26:46 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182646_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 06:26:36 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/avlogwriter_2016-02-07-182636_[redacted].crash
    Feb 7, 2016, 12:14:07 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/XCOM 2_2016-02-07-121407_[redacted].cpu_resource.diag [Details]
    Feb 7, 2016, 12:09:28 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Microsoft Excel_2016-02-07-120928_[redacted].hang
        /Applications/Microsoft Excel.app/Contents/MacOS/Microsoft Excel
    Feb 4, 2016, 08:51:05 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2016-02-04-205105_[redacted].panic [Details]
    Jan 12, 2016, 05:49:50 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Kernel_2016-01-12-174950_[redacted].panic [Details]
 

mafri

Osnabrücker Reinette
Registriert
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Beiträge
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[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.general.agent.plist [Support] [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.ipm.ui.plist [Support] [failed] com.avira.antivirus.notifications.agent.plist [Support] [Details] [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.odscan.default.plist [Support] [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.scheduler.agent.plist [Support] [running] com.avira.antivirus.systray.plist [Support] [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.telemetry.agent.plist [Support] [loaded] com.avira.antivirus.update.default.plist [Support] [running] com.avira.helper.avstats.plist [Support]
Da war es wieder, das Murmeltier...

Schau Dir bitte einmal diesen Beitrag an:

http://www.apfeltalk.de/community/threads/warnung-vor-cleanup-tools-antivirenprogrammen-co.435167/

Und dann deinstalliere Avira nach Herstellerangaben :)
 

denetron

Jonagold
Registriert
17.12.15
Beiträge
20
Ja, den erkenne ich ;)

Allerdings ist das Programm schon länger drauf und vorher lief es.
Werde es entfernen - Vielen Dank für die Unterstützung!
 

denetron

Jonagold
Registriert
17.12.15
Beiträge
20
Ja, habe ich mir nach meinem Post auch durchgelesen!
Kommt alles in die Tonne.

Bezieht sich dies auch Anti Viren Programme?
Sry wenn ich so frage - war aber jahrelang Windows Nutzer und da war das ein Muss.
 

markthenerd

Cellini
Registriert
26.08.06
Beiträge
8.746
Unter OS X eben nicht. Da reicht Brain 2.0.

Soll heissen, nicht jeden Schrott runterladen und das was man benötigt nur von seriösen Quellen. Also nichts von Softonic / Chip oder dergleichen.
 

ImpCaligula

deaktivierter Benutzer
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Bezieht sich dies auch Anti Viren Programme?
Liest Du nicht, welche Tipps man Dir gibt? ;)


Allerdings ist das Programm schon länger drauf und vorher lief es.
Gibt Leute die Rauchen 50 Jahre lang und passiert nichts - und dann auf einmal.... also ist Rauchen auch nicht ungesund? Weil 50 Jahre.... ;)