[Sammelthread] Bewertung von EtreCheck-Logs durch Profis

[Macbeatnik]

Nur als Hinweis, der Beachball muss nicht bedeuten, das die Hardware zu schwach ist.
Die Frage wäre jetzt eher, wo, in welchen Programmen und vielleicht auch, was das Log anzeigt, wenn der Rechner oder ein Programm hängt, denn auch wenn du jetzt zum Beispiel aufrüstest, und es tatsächlich nur ein Programm oder dienst ist, der hängt, dann wird sich da auch mit mehr Reserven nichts an der Problematik ändern.
Als Nebenfrage, aus Etrecheck geht das nicht hervor, mit irgendwelcher Schadsoftware hast du nicht gewerkelt, ich meine damit, das das System mal mit Systemoptimierern, wie Cleaner, DrClean, OnyX, CleanMyMac oder ähnlichen in Kontakt kam?

 

[Samaria]

Nein, von diesem ganzen Zeug habe ich die Finger gelassen. Es ist auch kein Virenscanner drauf. Das einzige, was ich habe, ist ADBlock in Safari, um diese teilweise sehr nervigen Werbeeinblendungen zu unterbinden.
Wie käme ich den ggf. an das Log? Gehts hier um die Aktivitätsanzeige?
Würde evtl. eine Neuinstallation etwas bringen? Hier wäre man ja dann wieder jungfräulich.
Gruß Samaria

 

[Macbeatnik]

Die Logs findest du in der Konsole, Programme/Dienstprogramme/Konsole, dort "Alle Meldungen" und/oder auch in den Benutzer-/Systemberichten

 

[Samaria]

Hallo habe es gefunden und mir das einmal angeschaut. Konnte den anderen Tips und Hinweisen ja noch folgen. Bin hier aber restlos überfordert.
Das was Du, Macbeatnik, schreibst bezüglich hängender Programme bzw. Dienste in Verbindung mit Aufrüstung ist durchaus einleuchtend. Und doch hätte ich mir eine "Patentlösung" wie Austausch von Komponenten wie von Ottomane vorgeschlagen als wirksames Mittel gewünscht.
Bin jetzt hin und hergerissen und nicht wirklich schlauer. Den Austausch der Komponenten RAM und SSD traue ich mir nach dem Studium der entsprechenden Videoanleitungen durchaus zu.
Vielleicht sollte ich wirklich eine Ersatzbeschaffung ins Auge fassen.
Gruß Samaria

 

[Samaria]

So, habe mich Heute überwunden und einen kompletten Clean Install einschließlich Löschen der Festplatte durchgeführt.
Anschließend Programme einzeln aus dem App Store installiert.
Dann EtreCheck laufen lassen. Ergebnis deutlich verbessert.

EtreCheck version: 3.4.2 (436)
Report generated 2017-07-24 20:40:36
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime: 4:23
Performance: Good

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Problem: No problem - just checking

Hardware Information: ⓘ
    MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2011)
    [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,3
    1 2,2 GHz Intel Core i7 (i7-2720QM) CPU: 4-core
    8 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]
        BANK 0/DIMM0
            4 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            4 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok
    Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported
    Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
    Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 253
    iCloud Quota: 74.53 GB available

Video Information: ⓘ
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 512 MB
    AMD Radeon HD 6750M - VRAM: 1024 MB
        Color LCD 1920 x 1200

Disk Information: ⓘ
    TOSHIBA MK7559GSXF disk0: (750,16 GB) (Rotational)
    [Show SMART report]
        EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <not mounted>  [EFI]: 210 MB
        (disk0s2) <not mounted>  [CoreStorage Container]: 749.30 GB
        Recovery HD (disk0s3 - Journaled HFS+) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

    MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8  ()

USB Information: ⓘ
     USB20Bus
        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
         hub_device
            Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
                Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
            Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
     USB20Bus
         hub_device
            Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Virtual disks: ⓘ
    Macintosh HD (disk1 - Journaled HFS+) /  [Startup]: 748.93 GB (693.90 GB free)
        Physical disk: disk0s2 749.30 GB Online

System Software: ⓘ
    macOS Sierra  10.12.6 (16G29) - Time since boot: about one hour

Gatekeeper: ⓘ
    Mac App Store and identified developers

System Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    177 Apple tasks
    [running]    98 Apple tasks

System Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    42 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    178 Apple tasks
    [running]    96 Apple tasks

Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]
    [running]    com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]

Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [running]    com.adobe.adobeupdatedaemon.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]
    [running]    com.adobe.agsservice.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]

User Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]

Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ
    AdobeAAMDetect: 3.0.0.0 (installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]
    QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-07-15)

3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ
    None

Time Machine: ⓘ
    Time Machine not configured!

Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ
        34%       photoanalysisd
        22%       cloudd
        14%       kernel_task
         4%       WindowServer
         3%       photolibraryd

Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ
    691 MB        kernel_task
    211 MB        com.apple.photos.ImageConversionService
    207 MB        photoanalysisd
    116 MB        mds_stores
    100 MB        WindowServer

Top Processes by Network Use: ⓘ
    Input         Output        Process name
    590 KB        11 KB         nsurlsessiond
    126 KB        29 KB         mDNSResponder
    19 KB         22 KB         cloudd
    12 KB         11 KB         apsd
    16 KB         4 KB          Mail

Top Processes by Energy Use: ⓘ
    115.22    com.apple.photos.ImageConversionService
     48.32    cloudd
     19.90    photoanalysisd
      6.28    WindowServer

Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ
    4.03 GB       Available RAM
    262 MB        Free RAM
    3.97 GB       Used RAM
    3.77 GB       Cached files
    278 MB        Swap Used

Software installs: ⓘ
    WhiteWall Fotobuch: 1.6.32 (installed 2017-07-24)
    Ninox Database: 2.1.1 (installed 2017-07-24)
    gps4cam tagger: 7.8.2 (installed 2017-07-24)

    Install information may not be complete.

Diagnostics Information: ⓘ
    2017-07-24 18:40:33    Creative Cloud.app Crash [Open]
        Cause:        objc_msgSend() selector name: isKindOfClass:
    2017-07-24 18:25:36    nsurlsessiond Crash [Open]
        Cause:        455: CFNetwork internal error (0xc01a:/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/CFNetwork/CFNetwork-811.5.4/Loading/URLConnectionLoader.cpp:304)
    2017-07-24 17:57:39    cloudphotosd.app Crash [Open]
        Cause:        *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '-[__NSMallocBlock__ idleCountQueue]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x7ffdfe604e50'
        abort() called
        terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException

Danach nochmals die SMART Werte der Platte.

/private/var/folders/54/m4720jxx02j4gfk855lb356m0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/3C258739-582E-419A-8F10-7B681547F11C/d/k-smart.app/Contents/Resources/update-smart-drivedb: download from trunk failed (HTTP error)
Examining /dev/disk0

smartctl 6.4 2015-06-04 r4109 [x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-15, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     TOSHIBA MK7559GSXF
Firmware Version: GQ005B
User Capacity:    750,156,374,016 bytes [750 GB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Form Factor:      2.5 inches
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Mon Jul 24 20:49:48 2017 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (  120) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      ( 198) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x003d)    SCT Status supported.
                    SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                    SCT Feature Control supported.
                    SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       2115
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       14848
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       248
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   090   090   000    Old_age   Always       -       4385
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   253   100   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       14753
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       218
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       119
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   068   068   000    Old_age   Always       -       323341
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       42 (Min/Max 15/50)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       17
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
220 Disk_Shift              0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       107
222 Loaded_Hours            0x0032   092   092   000    Old_age   Always       -       3544
223 Load_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
224 Load_Friction           0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
226 Load-in_Time            0x0026   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       228
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0001   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
254 Free_Fall_Sensor        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       12

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Vielleicht kann ja nochmal jemand drüber schauen.
Vielen Dank Gruß Samaria

 

[Samaria]

@ottomane?

 

[ottomane]

Yep

Ich finde, das siehr alles recht gut aus. Am Ende des Logs finden sich einige Abstürze.

    2017-07-24 18:40:33    Creative Cloud.app Crash [Open]
        Cause:        objc_msgSend() selector name: isKindOfClass:
    2017-07-24 18:25:36    nsurlsessiond Crash [Open]
        Cause:        455: CFNetwork internal error (0xc01a:/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/CFNetwork/CFNetwork-811.5.4/Loading/URLConnectionLoader.cpp:304)
    2017-07-24 17:57:39    cloudphotosd.app Crash [Open]

Das muss nicht zwingend schlimm sein und wenn es nicht dauernd passiert, ist es wohl hinzunehmen. Die Smart-Werte sind auch OK.

Nicht vergessen, TimeMachine einzurichten

 

[Macbeatnik]

Zur Zeit des etrecheck Berichtes lief auch noch die Neuanlage der fotolibrary, das könnte den Rechner auch in der Zeit verlangsamt haben, wenn dieser Prozess beendet ist sollte man die Geschwindigkeit nochmal testen, aber wenn der Rechner jetzt schon schneller läuft, dann wird vermutlich doch ein softwareseitigen Fehler vor.

 

[Samaria]

Vielen Dank!
Dann könnte ich ja jetzt den Austausch der HDD gegen eine SSD ins Auge fassen.
Welche würdet Ihr denn empfehlen? Hier ist immer von Samsung und Crucial die Rede. Mit leichter Tendenz zur Crucial.
Denke, dass ich mit einer um die 500 GB hin käme. Die meisten Daten und vor allem Fotos liegen auf einem NAS.
RAM erstmal lassen?
TimeMachine wird auf jeden Fall noch eingerichtet.

Samaria

 

[Samaria]

So nachdem der Rechner nun einen ganzen Tag in Ruhe gelassen wurde, jetzt noch einmal etrecheck laufen lassen.
Ich kanns fast nicht glauben: Performance jetzt excellent.
Hier das Ergebnis:

EtreCheck version: 3.4.2 (436)
Report generated 2017-07-26 20:16:41
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime: 2:49
Performance: Excellent

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Problem: No problem - just checking

Hardware Information: ⓘ
    MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2011)
    [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,3
    1 2,2 GHz Intel Core i7 (i7-2720QM) CPU: 4-core
    8 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]
        BANK 0/DIMM0
            4 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            4 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok
    Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported
    Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
    Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 253
    iCloud Quota: 71.54 GB available

Video Information: ⓘ
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 512 MB
    AMD Radeon HD 6750M - VRAM: 1024 MB
        Color LCD 1920 x 1200

Disk Information: ⓘ
    TOSHIBA MK7559GSXF disk0: (750,16 GB) (Rotational)
    [Show SMART report]
        EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <not mounted>  [EFI]: 210 MB
        (disk0s2) <not mounted>  [CoreStorage Container]: 749.30 GB
        Recovery HD (disk0s3 - Journaled HFS+) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

    MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8  ()

USB Information: ⓘ
     USB20Bus
        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
         hub_device
            Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
                Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
            Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
     USB20Bus
         hub_device
            Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Virtual disks: ⓘ
    Macintosh HD (disk1 - Journaled HFS+) /  [Startup]: 748.93 GB (677.06 GB free)
        Physical disk: disk0s2 749.30 GB Online

System Software: ⓘ
    macOS Sierra  10.12.6 (16G29) - Time since boot: about 2 days

Gatekeeper: ⓘ
    Mac App Store and identified developers

System Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    167 Apple tasks
    [running]    108 Apple tasks

System Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    42 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    172 Apple tasks
    [running]    102 Apple tasks

Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]
    [running]    com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]

Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [running]    com.adobe.adobeupdatedaemon.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]
    [running]    com.adobe.agsservice.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]

User Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]

Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ
    AdobeAAMDetect: 3.0.0.0 (installed 2017-07-24) [Lookup]
    QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-07-15)

3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ
    None

Time Machine: ⓘ
    Time Machine not configured!

Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ
        10%       WindowServer
         3%       kernel_task
         1%       Adobe CEF Helper
         1%       Creative Cloud
         0%       SystemUIServer

Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ
    720 MB        kernel_task
    351 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    297 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    241 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    219 MB        com.apple.photos.ImageConversionService

Top Processes by Network Use: ⓘ
    Input         Output        Process name
    668 KB        81 KB         com.apple.WebKit.Networking
    581 KB        56 KB         mDNSResponder
    305 KB        5 KB          Mail
    7 KB          10 KB         apsd
    12 KB         874 B         com.apple.WebKit.Networking

Top Processes by Energy Use: ⓘ
     11.32    WindowServer
      1.18    Adobe CEF Helper
      0.74    Creative Cloud
      0.72    launchd

Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ
    3.10 GB       Available RAM
    72 MB         Free RAM
    4.90 GB       Used RAM
    3.02 GB       Cached files
    814 MB        Swap Used

Software installs: ⓘ
    WhiteWall Fotobuch: 1.6.32 (installed 2017-07-24)
    Ninox Database: 2.1.1 (installed 2017-07-24)
    gps4cam tagger: 7.8.2 (installed 2017-07-24)

    Install information may not be complete.

Diagnostics Information: ⓘ
    2017-07-24 18:40:33    Creative Cloud.app Crash [Open]
        Cause:        objc_msgSend() selector name: isKindOfClass:
    2017-07-24 18:25:36    nsurlsessiond Crash [Open]
        Cause:        455: CFNetwork internal error (0xc01a:/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/CFNetwork/CFNetwork-811.5.4/Loading/URLConnectionLoader.cpp:304)
    2017-07-24 17:57:39    cloudphotosd.app Crash [Open]
        Cause:        *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '-[__NSMallocBlock__ idleCountQueue]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x7ffdfe604e50'
        abort() called
        terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException

Vielen Dank für Eure Hilfe @ottomane und @Macbeatnik

 

[Felix Scherrer]

Ich braue Hilfe beim verstehen des EtreCheck.

EtreCheck version: 3.4.2 (436)
Report generated 2017-08-11 11:16:34
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime: 3:40
Performance: Good

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Problem: Computer is too slow

Hardware Information: ⓘ
    iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2012)
    [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]
    iMac - model: iMac13,1
    1 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-3335S) CPU: 4-core
    8 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]
        BANK 0/DIMM0
            4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
    Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
    Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Video Information: ⓘ
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M - VRAM: 512 MB
        iMac 1920 x 1080

Disk Information: ⓘ
    APPLE HDD ST1000LM024 disk0: (1 TB) (Rotational)
    [Show SMART report]
        EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <not mounted>  [EFI]: 210 MB
        Macintosh HD (disk0s2 - Journaled HFS+) /  [Startup]: 999.35 GB (245.70 GB free)
        Recovery HD (disk0s3 - Journaled HFS+) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

USB Information: ⓘ
     USB20Bus
         hub_device
            Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
     USB20Bus
         hub_device
             hub_device
                Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
                    Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
     USB30Bus

Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

System Software: ⓘ
    macOS Sierra  10.12.6 (16G29) - Time since boot: about one hour

Gatekeeper: ⓘ
    Mac App Store and identified developers

System Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    177 Apple tasks
    [running]    98 Apple tasks

System Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    39 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    176 Apple tasks
    [running]    103 Apple tasks

Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [failed]    com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a23d420d.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-01-11) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2017-07-10) [Lookup]

Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [loaded]    com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-01-11) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-01-11) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (? 2afb3af7 85012398 - installed 2017-07-25) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.bombich.ccc.plist (? 41245744 2bf40b6f - installed 2013-12-01) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.bombich.ccchelper.plist (Bombich Software, Inc. - installed 2017-08-02) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2017-07-27) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2017-04-11) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist (? 6d8cb30e afb3bef0 - installed 2010-08-31) [Lookup]

User Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [failed]    com.Wondershare.TunesGoWatchDemo.plist (? ada44ca7 0 - installed 2014-01-03) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.dropbox.DropboxMacUpdate.agent.plist (Dropbox, Inc. - installed 2017-08-11) [Lookup]

User Login Items: ⓘ
    My Swisscom Assistant Repair    Programm
        (/Applications/Swisscom/My Swisscom Assistant.app/Contents/Applications/My Swisscom Assistant Repair.app)
    My Swisscom Assistant Repair    Programm
        (/Applications/My Swisscom Assistant.app/Contents/Applications/My Swisscom Assistant Repair.app)
    iTunesHelper    Programm (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-07-22)
        (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)
    owncloud    Programm
        (/Applications/owncloud.app)

Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ
    DirectorShockwave: 12.0.0r112 (installed 2013-02-19) [Lookup]
    Unity Web Player: UnityPlayer version 5.0.3f2 (installed 2015-10-31) [Lookup]
    Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: 3.0.0.126   (installed 2013-01-13) [Lookup]
    AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 17.012.20093 (installed 2017-08-08) [Lookup]
    FlashPlayer-10.6: 26.0.0.151 (installed 2017-08-08) [Lookup]
    Silverlight: 5.1.50428.0 (installed 2016-06-26) [Lookup]
    QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-07-25)
    Flash Player: 26.0.0.151 (installed 2017-08-08) [Lookup]
    iPhotoPhotocast: 7.0 (installed 2013-01-13)
    SharePointBrowserPlugin: 14.7.2 (installed 2017-03-14) [Lookup]
    AdobePDFViewer: 17.012.20093 (installed 2017-08-08) [Lookup]
    JavaAppletPlugin: 15.0.1 (installed 2014-06-29) Check version

Safari Extensions: ⓘ
    [disabled]    Video2mp3 - Lunaweb - http://www.video2mp3.net (installed 2013-08-13)

3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ
    Flash Player (installed 2017-07-25) [Lookup]
    Flip4Mac WMV (installed 2013-01-13) [Lookup]

Time Machine: ⓘ
    Time Machine not configured!

Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ
         7%       syncdefaultsd
         4%       mdworker
         4%       mdworker
         3%       WindowServer
         2%       mds

Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ
    839 MB        kernel_task
    427 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    311 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    185 MB        iTunesStorageExtension
    182 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

Top Processes by Network Use: ⓘ
    Input         Output        Process name
    317 KB        48 KB         mDNSResponder
    17 KB         7 KB          netbiosd
    11 KB         12 KB         apsd
    624 B         624 B         ntpd
    0 B           192 B         SystemUIServer

Top Processes by Energy Use: ⓘ
      5.42    WindowServer
      2.82    syncdefaultsd
      0.76    secd
      0.36    trustd

Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ
    3.07 GB       Available RAM
    540 MB        Free RAM
    4.93 GB       Used RAM
    2.54 GB       Cached files
    0 B           Swap Used

Software installs: ⓘ
    Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (17.009.20058):  (installed 2017-07-15)
    Google Earth:  (installed 2017-07-27)
    Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (17.012.20093):  (installed 2017-08-08)
    Adobe Flash Player:  (installed 2017-08-08)

    Install information may not be complete.

Diagnostics Information: ⓘ
    2017-08-10 20:45:00    iBooks.app Crash [Open]
        Cause:        *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '*** -[_NSXPCDistantObjectWithError methodSignatureForSelector:]: No protocol has been set on connection <NSXPCConnection: 0x7fc167501a60> connection from pid 0'
        terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException
        abort() called
    2017-08-09 00:13:53    accountsd Crash [Open]
        Cause:        *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'MFSQLiteException', reason: 'tagging database with last write major version'
        terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException
        abort() called
        SQLite error 5 (extended: 5) - database is locked

Files deleted by EtreCheck: ⓘ
    2017-08-11 11:07:50 - com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist - Unknown
    2017-08-11 11:07:50 - ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.jdibackup.JustCloud.autostart.plist - Unknown
    2017-08-11 11:07:50 - ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.jdibackup.JustCloud.notify.plist - Unknown
    2017-08-11 11:07:50 - ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.jdibackup.ZipCloud.autostart.plist - Unknown
    2017-08-11 11:07:50 - ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.jdibackup.ZipCloud.notify.plist - Unknown

 

[Macbeatnik]

Welche Probleme zeigen sich denn?
Ansonsten hattest du Adware auf dem Rechner (jdibackup...) und die ist entfernt worden.
Problem ist, sofern kein anderes Backup vorliegt, das Timemachine nicht aktiviert ist ansonsten ist da auf dem ersten Blick nichts ungewöhnliches zu sehen.

 

[Felix Scherrer]

Mein Rechner ist beim Aufstarten von Programmen und anderen Dingen immer wieder sehr langsam. Ein Backup habe ich aber.

 

[Macbeatnik]

Auch jetzt noch, nachdem die Adware hoffentlich ganz entfernt wurde?

 

[u0679]

Eventuell liegt es einfach an der verbauten HDD. Die ist im 2012er natürlich nicht mehr ganz so zügig.
Ich würde ein Upgrade auf eine SSD in Betracht ziehen. Damit hast Du dann Jahre noch Spaß mit Deinem iMac.

 

[Felix Scherrer]

Stimmt, nach einem Neustart gehts nun flotter. Die Performance in EtreCheck hat von "too slow" auf "good" gewechselt.
Das erste Öffnen von Word nach dem Neustart dauert aber immer noch über 30'' - muss ich wohl so akzeptieren. Beim wiederholten Öffnen geht's dann ratzfatz.

Weist du was eine solche Aufrüstung etwa kostet?

 

[doc_holleday]

Zusätzlich kannst du mal noch das Anti-Adware/Malware-Tool von Malwarebytes laufen lassen.
https://de.malwarebytes.com/

Nur für den Fall, dass EtreCheck nicht alles erwischt hat.

Und noch was anderes: Flip4Mac wird glaube schon eine Weile nicht mehr weiter entwickelt. Es könnte als Zeit sein sich nach einer Alternative umzuschauen.

 

[raven]

@Felix Scherrer Aus reinem Interesse, für was hast du das Swisscomgedöns installiert?
Meiner Meinung nach, vollkommen überflüssig.

Willkommen im Forum bei AT.

 

[Felix Scherrer]

Du hast wahrscheinlich recht, bis jetzt war das Swisscomdings nicht wirklich hilfreich.

 

[raven]

Freunde ich benötige Hilfe bevor ein neuer Thread erstellt wird.

EtreCheck version: 3.4.2 (436)
Report generated 2017-08-19 11:31:54
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime: 7:47
Performance: Below Average

Click the [Lookup] links for more information from Apple Support Communities.
Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.
Click the [Clean up] link to delete unused files.

Problem: Other problem

Hardware Information: ⓘ
    MacBook Pro (13-inch, Early 2011)
    [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1
    1 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-2415M) CPU: 2-core
    4 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]
        BANK 0/DIMM0
            2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz ok
    Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported
    Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
    Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 101

Video Information: ⓘ
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB
        Color LCD 1280 x 800

Disk Information: ⓘ
    Hitachi HTS545032B9A302 disk0: (320.07 GB) (Rotational)
    [Show SMART report]
        EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <not mounted>  [EFI]: 210 MB
        (disk0s2) <not mounted>  [CoreStorage Container]: 319.21 GB
        Recovery HD (disk0s3 - Journaled HFS+) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

    OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5970H  ()

USB Information: ⓘ
     USB20Bus
        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
         hub_device
            Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
            Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
                Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
     USB20Bus
         hub_device
            Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Virtual disks: ⓘ
    Macintosh HD (disk1 - Journaled HFS+) /  [Startup]: 318.85 GB (271.99 GB free)
        Physical disk: disk0s2 319.21 GB Online

System Software: ⓘ
    macOS Sierra  10.12.6 (16G29) - Time since boot: about 3 days

Gatekeeper: ⓘ
    Mac App Store and identified developers

Clean up: ⓘ
    /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.installer.cleanupinstaller.plist
        /macOS Install Data/Locked Files/cleanup_installer
        Executable not found!
    One orphan file found. [Clean up]

System Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    8 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    173 Apple tasks
    [running]    59 Apple tasks
    [killed]    42 Apple tasks
    42 processes killed due to insufficient RAM

System Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [failed]    com.apple.csrutil.report.plist (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-07-15)
    [not loaded]    40 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    170 Apple tasks
    [running]    74 Apple tasks
    [killed]    33 Apple tasks
    33 processes killed due to insufficient RAM

Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (? c140ce23 72ac4dde - installed 2017-08-03) [Lookup]

Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    com.apple.installer.cleanupinstaller.plist (? ? ? - installed 2017-08-09) - /macOS Install Data/Locked Files/cleanup_installer: Executable not found!
    [loaded]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2017-08-15) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist (? 6d8cb30e afb3bef0 - installed 2010-08-31) [Lookup]
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (Shell Script e3fefdd2 - installed 2017-07-22) [Lookup]

User Login Items: ⓘ
    iTunesHelper    Programm - Hidden (? 0 - installed 2017-07-20)
        (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ
    SharePointBrowserPlugin: 14.7.6 (installed 2017-07-12) [Lookup]
    QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-07-15)
    JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 144 build 01 (installed 2017-08-03) Check version

3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ
    Java (installed 2017-08-03) [Lookup]

Time Machine: ⓘ
    Skip System Files: NO
    Mobile backups: ON
    Auto backup: YES
    Volumes being backed up:
        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 318.85 GB Disk used: 46.86 GB
    Destinations:
        LACIE SETUP [Local]
        Total size: 499.76 GB
        Total number of backups: 208
        Oldest backup: 01.06.12, 12:11
        Last backup: 17.08.17, 10:38
        Size of backup disk: Adequate
            Backup size 499.76 GB > (Disk used 46.86 GB X 3)

Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ
        21%       sandboxd
        20%       systemstats
         8%       coreduetd
         7%       WindowServer
         4%       coresymbolicationd

Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ
    464 MB        kernel_task
    167 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    167 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    138 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
    117 MB        com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

Top Processes by Network Use: ⓘ
    Input         Output        Process name
    614 KB        143 KB        mDNSResponder
    8 KB          13 KB         apsd
    10 KB         4 KB          com.apple.WebKit.Networking
    5 KB          3 KB          netbiosd
    960 B         960 B         ntpd

Top Processes by Energy Use: ⓘ
      7.74    WindowServer
      3.54    syncdefaultsd
      2.46    com.apple.CommerceKit.TransactionService
      2.18    com.apple.CommerceKit.TransactionService

Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ
    644 MB        Available RAM
    14 MB         Free RAM
    3.37 GB       Used RAM
    630 MB        Cached files
    233 MB        Swap Used

Software installs: ⓘ
    Java 8 Update 144:  (installed 2017-08-03)
    Microsoft AutoUpdate:  (installed 2017-08-15)

    Install information may not be complete.

Nachdem das MBP wunderbar lief mit Sierra ist es z.Z unerträglich mit dem Beatchball und starten jeglicher Anwendung.
Selbst *über diesen Mac* benötigt mehrere Anläufe bis etwas geschieht.

P.S Smart Werte aus Etrecheck eingefügt.

smartctl 6.5 2016-05-07 r4318 [Darwin 16.7.0 x86_64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     Hitachi HTS545032B9A302
Serial Number:    110913PBS3007TGM0EZR
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 6b1c8a4be
Firmware Version: PB3AC60Y
User Capacity:    320,072,933,376 bytes [320 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Form Factor:      2.5 inches
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is:    Sat Aug 19 11:36:50 2017 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (  645) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      ( 106) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x003d)    SCT Status supported.
                    SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                    SCT Feature Control supported.
                    SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   062    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   142   142   033    Pre-fail  Always       -       2
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   095   095   000    Old_age   Always       -       8494
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   096   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       2049
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   096   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       7150
160 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       64424509440
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       21474836495
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   085   085   000    Old_age   Always       -       154121
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   161   161   000    Old_age   Always       -       34 (Min/Max 21/43)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
223 Load_Retry_Count        0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
254 Free_Fall_Sensor        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       26

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      2027         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      2026         -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      2026         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.